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ITV Election Debate LIVE: Penny Mordaunt accuses Labour of having '£38.5 billion black hole' in party manifesto as parties clash over tax and NHS

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By Jamie Bullen

Published: 19:00 BST, 13 June 2024 | Updated: 20:56 BST, 13 June 2024

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Nigel Farage, Penny Mordaunt and Angela Rayner will tonight take part in a televised general election debate on ITV in a rematch of their previous grudge clash on the BBC.

The trio will feature as part of seven leaders and senior representatives with the Liberal Democrats, SNP, Greens and Plaid Cymru also participating.

The line-up is exactly the same as a previous multi-party debate on BBC last Friday. Following that event, a snap poll found Mr Farage performed the best on the night.

Follow MailOnline's live coverage below and join in the conversation in our comments section

Rayner and Mordaunt square up on taxes

Penny Mordaunt has taken aim at Labour accusing the party of having a 'black hole of £38.5 billion' in the party's manifesto.

Ms Mordaunt said: 'Labour has only declared about a quarter of the taxes they’re going to put up. They’re going to have to put up a lot more.'

Angela Rayner, the deputy Labour leader, hit back to say what's unaffordable is five more years of the Conservatives.

She added: 'You’ve already crashed the economy once.'

Daisy Cooper, the deputy Liberal Democrat leader, interjected to say the Tories had raised the tax burden to the highest level in 80 years.

Labour and SNP clash over social care

First clash of the night comes as Stephen Flynn challenges Angela Rayner over social care

Mr Flynn accused Wes Streeting of 'wanting to hold the door open to the private sector', to which Ms Rayner shot back 'that’s not true'.

Ms Rayner says:

Wes Streeting has said in order to bring the record high waiting list down that we would use up capacity in the private sector to bring waiting lists down, rather than keeping people on waiting lists for years, waiting for an operation they need, but it will always be a public service under Labour.

Nigel Farage says Labour is right to use the private sector.

Nigel Farage blames NHS crisis on 'exploding population'

All the leaders are talking about the NHS and Mr Farage says the crisis in the health service has been caused by an 'exploding population' as he calls for a French insurance-style system in place.

Penny Mordaunt is quick to attack Labour as she claims they are the only party to cut the NHS budget.

Angela Rayner says the NHS is 'one of our proudest achievements' that Labour will fix again.

Carla Denyer says the Greens will provide 'transformative investment' while Daisy Cooper for the Lib Dems says her party's manifesto is about saving the NHS.

Carla Denyer, the Green leader, said people were leaving the NHS “for better pay and better conditions elsewhere”, pledging “transformative investment” in health under the Greens

First question on public services

Julie Etchingham starts the debate by explaining questions will be asked by audience.

Each participant will give an answer interrupted.

When everyone has spoken the debate will then take place.

The first question is from a man named Dennis from Southport who asks how the parties will restore public services.

Debate starts

We're about to start the ITV debate.

The candidates are introducing themselves before the questions start.

Greens - Viewers will see 'battle of ideas on equal platform'

With just minutes to go before the debate starts, we've had some early thoughts from the Greens.

Green Party Deputy Leader, Zack Polanski, said from the spin room:

Tonight we will see a real battle of ideas on an equal platform. And after today's Labour manifesto launch, it's never been clearer that people want real hope and real change - not just more of the same.

Farage declares Reform 'real opposition' to Labour

Here is Nigel Farage's reaction to that huge poll that has dropped on the eve of the ITV election debate.

Breaking:Reform overtakes Tories in YouGov poll

Nigel Farage teased a major announcement before he heads to the election debate... and here it is.

Reform has overtaken the Conservatives in the polls for the first time.

A YouGov survey for The Times finds Nigel Farage's party on 19 points - one in front of the Tories.

The poll was carried out this week after Rishi Sunak launched the Conservative manifesto.

I'm sure it will be mentioned tonight!

Half an hour until debate kicks off

We're just 30 minutes from the ITV Election Debate.

Hopefully we will start to see candidates arriving soon so stick with us for live updates from throughout the debate.

Army bomb disposal units rush to Tory candidate's office

Big news to bring you tonight before we look forward to the ITV debate.

Army bomb disposal experts and police are investigating a suspect device at a Conservative candidate's office in West Sussex.

Sussex Police were pictured at the scene outside Jeremy Quin's office in Horsham, with photos showing a bomb disposal vehicle and a fire engine on the street.

Read Katherine Lawton's story below:

Watch: Keir Starmer interrupted by climate heckler during Labour manifesto

One of the standout moments from this morning's Labour manifesto launch was the moment a climate heckler disrupted the Labour leader during his flagship address.

The Green New Deal Rising campaign group named the activist as 27-year-old Alice, who said in a statement: 'I disrupted the Labour Party’s manifesto launch today because I feel so betrayed and disappointed by what the Labour Party is offering at this election.'

Sir Keir responded to the protest by saying Labour 'gave up on being a party of protest five years ago', before adding it now wanted to be a 'party in power'.

See the moment below:

Labour candidate releases campaign rap to leave social media users cringing

Another little item from today...

Dawn Butler, a Labour candidate and former MP who is standing in the London seat of Brent Central, left social media users cringing today after she released a rap of a campaign song.

Ms Butler has released a video of herself rapping to mark the three-week countdown to the general election. She shared a clip of herself singing over a remixed version of '21 Seconds' by So Solid Crew.

'We’ve got 21 days to go,' she sings, before referencing Rishi Sunak’s D-Day blunder.

Receving a mixed reaction on social media, one wrote: 'This is beyond embarrassing, the UK’s political class is a joke.'

Recap: What has happened on the campaign trail today?

 Stefan Rousseau/PA Wire

Before we look ahead to tonight's debate, let's just remind you all of what's happened on the election trail earlier today.

Meet the host of tonight's debate: Julie Etchingham

 Photo by Jonathan Hordle/ITV/Shutterstock (14521013aj) Sunak v Starmer: The ITV Debateairing at 9pm on Tuesday 4th June on ITV1, ITVX, STV and STV Player Pictured: Host Julie Etchingham as ITV host the first head-to-head debate of the General ElectionPhotographer Jonathan Hordle/ITV (c) ITV - This picture remains the Copyright of ITV and is made available for free editorial use until 4/7/24 - The day of the General Election. No Archive after this date. Sunak v Starmer: The ITV Debate, Salford, UK - 03 Jun 2024

Tonight's 90-minute debate will be moderated by ITV News presenter Julie Etchingham (pictured) who also hosted the first televised leaders clash between Rishi Sunak and Sir Keir Starmer on June 4.

While some viewers praised Ms Etchingham for how she handled that debate, others slammed ITV for allowing Mr Sunak and Mr Starmer to speak over one another and accused the host of 'failing to get a grip of' the debate.

Read our piece below:

ITV Election Debate: Full line-up

The ITV Election Debate will be shown live on ITV for 90 minutes from 8.30pm.

Looking forward to tonight's debate and a rematch of the first encounter, here is the full line-up of leaders or senior representatives taking part:

  • Penny Mordaunt - Conservative Party - Leader of the House of Commons

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  • Angela Rayner - Labour Party - Deputy Leader

Britain's main opposition Labour Party deputy leader and Shadow Levelling Up, Housing and Communities Secretary Angela Rayner delivers a speech on stage during the launching of Labour Party election manifesto, in Manchester, on June 13, 2024 in the build-up to the UK general election on July 4. (Photo by Oli SCARFF / AFP) (Photo by OLI SCARFF/AFP via Getty Images)

  • Daisy Cooper - Liberal Democrats - Deputy Leader

Liberal Democrat deputy leader Daisy Cooper leaves the BBC studio in London on June 7, 2024 after the second live TV debate between leaders and representatives from the leading parties in the UK General Election taking place on July 4. (Photo by BENJAMIN CREMEL / AFP) (Photo by BENJAMIN CREMEL/AFP via Getty Images)

  • Stephen Flynn - SNP - Westminster Leader

07/06/2024 - LONDON - Seven political parties face each other in the BBC's first election debate. Tory Penny Mordaunt says Rishi Sunak was "completely wrong" to leave D-Day events early and says he has "rightly apologised". Also appearing at the debate are Angela Rayner from Labour, Stephen Flynn from the Scottish National Party and Daisy Cooper from the Liberal Democrats. Nigel Farage from Reform UK, Rhun ap Iorwerth from Plaid Cymru, and Carla Denyer from the Greens are also on the line-up. PICTURE: BBC/UNPIXS  07/06/2024

  • Nigel Farage - Reform UK - Leader

 Leader of Reform UK Nigel Farage, speaks to the nation during the the launch of Reform UK's economic policy at Church House, Deans Yard, Westminster on June 10, 2024 in London, England. The Reform Party says it is proposing policies that will turbocharge recovery, growth and economic optimism among the country's businesses and people.(Photo by Leon Neal/Getty Images)

  • Carla Denyer - Green Party - Co-Leader

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  • Rhun ap Iorwerth - Plaid Cymru - Leader

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The view from our MailOnline panel: No 'game-changing' moment in first debate

Throughout the election debates we have heard from our own MailOnline panel of voters.

Relive the verdict from the first multi-party debate as some felt Penny Mordaunt was 'dealt a bad hand' by having to represent the Conservatives after Rishi Sunak made an early exit from the D-Day commemorations in Normandy.

Read the piece below:

First debate recap: How many watched? And who came out on top?

Britain's Reform UK party Leader Nigel Farage, Leader of Plaid Cymru Rhun ap Iorwerth, Britain's Deputy Leader of the Liberal Democrats Daisy Cooper, Leader of the Scottish National Party (SNP) Stephen Flynn, Co-leader of the Green Party of England and Wales Carla Denyer, Britain's Labour Party deputy leader Angela Rayner, Britain's Leader of the House of Commons Penny Mordaunt take part in a BBC election debate, in London, Britain, June 7, 2024. Jeff Overs/BBC/Handout via REUTERS. ATTENTION EDITORS - THIS IMAGE HAS BEEN SUPPLIED BY A THIRD PARTY. NO RESALES. NO ARCHIVES. NOT FOR USE MORE THAN 21 DAYS AFTER ISSUE. MANDATORY CREDIT. BEST QUALITY AVAILABLE

For the first televised multi-party debate on the BBC last Friday, an average audience of 3.2 million tuned in to watch the clash.

That was an increase from the BBC's seven-way debate in the run-up to the 2019 general election, which attracted an average audience of 2.5 million.

During Friday's debate, hosted by Mishal Husain, Ms Mordaunt and Ms Rayner engaged in fiery exchanges over tax, NHS waiting lists and the push for Net Zero.

Ms Mordaunt continued to repeat the Tories' claim that Labour would raise taxes by £2,000 if elected, prompting Ms Rayner to accuse the Cabinet minister of lying.

A snap viewer poll taken after the debate placed Mr Farage as the winner. The poll, conducted by researchers More In Common, asked more than 1,000 viewers who won the debate, with 25 per cent of those surveyed opting for Mr Farage.

Preview: It's 'catfight round 2'

Our political correspondent Greg Heffer will be covering tonight's debate for MailOnline.

He reports Tory minister Penny Mordaunt, Labour's Angela Rayner and Reform UK leader Nigel Farage are set for another fiery clash tonight in the seven-way TV general election debate.

Mr Farage - who was judged to have won last week's debate by viewers - risked a sexism row when he suggested the heated exchanges between the House of Commons Leader and Labour deputy represented a 'catfight'.

Read his preview here:

Good evening

 Photo by Jonathan Hordle/ITV/Shutterstock (14537593a) THE ITV ELECTION DEBATE 2024Live Tuesday 4th June on ITV1, ITVX, STV and STV PlayerTEST PICTURE shows the ITV debate logoStanding positions for the debate were decided, after lots were drawn. Each party's representative stood behind podiums on the stage in the order of (L-R) Labour, Liberal Democrats, Conservative, Green Party, Reform UK, SNP, Plaid Cymru. The debate was be moderated by Julie Etchingham The programme will run for 90 minute followed by ITV News at Ten.  (c) ITV  - This picture remains the Copyright of ITV and is made available for free editorial use until 4/7/24 - The day of the General Election. No Archive after this date. 'The ITV Election Debate 2024' TV Show, Salford, UK - 13 Jun 2024

Hello and welcome to MailOnline's live coverage of the ITV Election Debate featuring leaders and senior politicians from seven political parties in this year's general election.

Tonight we will see Reform leader Nigel Farage, Conservative Cabinet minister Penny Mordaunt and Labour deputy Angela Rayner face off against one another as well as representatives from the Lib Dems, SNP, Greens and Plaid Cymru.

The line-up is a carbon copy of the first televised multi-party debate on the BBC last Friday in which voters declared Nigel Farage as the winner in a snap poll.

Join us for live updates throughout the 90-minute event plus reaction afterwards.

Key Updates

  • Reform overtakes Tories in YouGov poll

  • Recap: What has happened on the campaign trail today?

  • ITV Election Debate: Full line-up

  • First debate recap: How many watched? And who came out on top?

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